00:00:00EMILY ROBINSON: I'm Emily Robinson here with Caitlyn Heckman to talk about your
life as a member of the Allentown Band for an oral history project as part of
the Lehigh Valley Engaged Humanities Consortium. Caitlyn, thank you for your
willingness to speak with us. Can you please state your full name and date of birth?
CAITLYN HECKMAN: Caitlyn Grace Heckman, May 4, 1990.
ER: Thank you. OK, so let's start from where everything began. How did you first
become interested in music and playing?
CH: Well, I grew up in a household that really, you know, fostered a love of
music, and I grew up Moravian, so I grew up in a church that has a lot of music
involvement and a lot of music in worship. So music has always sort of been
around. I started playing trombone in fourth grade not knowing, you know, little
nine-year-old me that I'd be teaching music and playing professionally, but
played all through school, majored in music in college, and now here we are. (laughs)
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ER: Who are your major musical or personal influences, like growing up?
CH: Well, my parents both instilled a love of music in both me and my brother.
My brother's also a trombone player and also played with the band. Mostly them.
There was always music on. We used to have, we called it pizza and loud music
Fridays, so my dad would put on all the music he listened to as a kid and, you
know, exposed us to things. I always loved listening to, like, big band music as
a kid. We got to spend a lot of time with our grandparents, and my grandfather
especially, because he was a drummer in a dance band at one point, he played a
lot of, like Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman. So Glenn Miller was kind of this,
like, person who I always kind of aspired to be, because he gave up everything
and joined the military and, you know, started this band , and like he was sort
of a big musical influence. Not that I play a lot of jazz now, but he was always
sort of this figure that I saw as an influence.
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ER: So you said that you and your brother play trombone and mentioned Glenn
Miller, a prominent trombone player. Was that how you came to that decision to
play trombone?
CH: It was mostly growing up Moravian. The Bethlehem Moravian Trombone Choir is
the oldest trombone choir in the world, I believe, since 1754, I think is the
date. I don't know that for sure. So trombones are a big part of Moravian
history, and they've always been in worship, and I saw them, and it's a very
versatile instrument, so I saw it as an opportunity to be in band and orchestra
and jazz band, and its versatility and the sound of it, the fact that when I
picked it up I got this huge sound out of it, I was like OK. I was hooked.
ER: So how did you become involved in the Allentown Band?
CH: My trombone teacher in high school is a trombone player with the band, and
his wife plays flute, so I had known about the band, and then when I was a
00:03:00senior in high school I did the Side-by-Side concert and got to play -- I
believe Scott Shilstone was the trombone soloist that year. He was the guest
soloist. And we did this trombone quintet arrangement of Lassus Trombones, and
it was awesome. And the band had come to do a concert at -- I went to Moravian,
and the band had come to do a concert there, and as luck would have it, my
senior year I ended up sitting next to Ron Demkee in the orchestra for a choral
performance, and he took my information and invited me to come that summer to
fill in for rehearsals, and then it turned into coming to rehearsal all the
time, filling in for jobs, finally becoming an official member of the band. I
think that was 2014 I officially got my letter that I was a member.
ER: Can you speak more to the Side-by-Side experience?
CH: It was great. I ended up doing it because I had intended on being in the pit
00:04:00orchestra for my high school's musical, and there was no trombone part in the
pit orchestra. And it so happened that Side-by-Side was the same weekend, and I
was like OK, if I can't be in the pit orchestra, I'll do the Side-by-Side
concert. And it was so cool to be playing such high caliber music as a high
school student and being with these people who it's not necessarily their job
but something that they do on a regular basis and that they love doing.
ER: So as far as playing with the band, since you said you became an official
member in 2014 have there been any extremely memorable moments as far as pieces
or performances, locations?
CH: Well, the first thing that sticks out is we played at Carnegie Hall in 2016,
which was absolutely as incredible as everyone says it is. You walk in and it's
just immaculate, and the sound is just everywhere, and we went out at the end
and did Stars and Stripes, and the trumpets and trombones went out front, and we
00:05:00got like six standing ovations, and it was just amazing. I've actually done two
solos with the band, which was really memorable. Both were Arthur Pryor pieces,
and according to Ezra Wenner, who is the record-holder for longest years of
membership, he said he thinks I'm the first woman to perform a trombone solo
with the band, which is kind of a cool milestone. And I'm actually playing
another solo at our upcoming dinner concert, so looking forward to that.
ER: As far as the band changing over time, being the first female trombone
player to do a solo, how do you see yourself fitting into the band history and --
CH: Well, I mean, you know, breaking glass ceilings, but... (laughs) It's just
the band has been around for almost 200 years, and I think the community really
00:06:00gets what the band is trying to do. You know, we're trying to not only preserve
the Sousa band tradition but also promote new music and commission works, and I
think the audience for the band is kind of getting older. I've only been in the
band for not as many years as most other people, but I've noticed the audience
getting older, and these youth outreach concerts that we do and just trying to
get the future generations involved and interested in what we're doing, I think
that's a really, really great thing.
ER: How would you say that your experiences in the band have changed the
trajectory of your music career or your life, all these kinds of things?
CH: I would say it's nice to be on the baton. As a music teacher myself -- I
teach elementary instrumental music, so I always tell people I hear the good,
00:07:00the bad, and the ugly on a daily basis -- but knowing the frustrations that I
feel and the victories that I feel as a player in an ensemble, my students are
also experiencing those things, so I can kind of reflect on OK, this is how I
felt, this is how the kids are feeling. How can we fix this? And just being a
performing musician just enhances my ability to teach kids. And I use the band
as an example all the time with my students. You know, I've had a whole bunch of
kids lately ask me well, when I get to college I think I'm going to do this, or
I'm going to do that. I'm like, you can still do music. Like, it doesn't have to
be your job. You know, there's people in the band that are doctors and dentists
and school counselors. It's not their job, but it's something that you can do
for your entire life, which is something I try to instill in my students. I know
that they're not all going to turn into the principal violin of the Philly
Orchestra. But, you know, they're having a positive experience, and if I can
00:08:00give them something that they can take for the rest of their lives, that's a win
for me.
ER: How would you say that the band kind of projects that sentiment into the
greater community?
CH: Well, especially with our youth concerts. We have all of these elementary
and middle school students and even some high school students, I think, coming
in, and Ron does a great job of explaining, like, not everyone that is on stage
is a musician by trade. Ezra is a great example. He's in his 90s and still
playing trombone. Like, I hope I'm still breathing when I'm his age, let alone
playing trombone the way he does. And really just getting different
opportunities for the band. Like we've been doing a lot of church concerts
lately, which really attracts a varied audience. Just getting our name out there
and getting as many different types of venues and different jobs as we can is
going to help us in the future.
ER: So what do you see particularly for the future of the band moving forward as
00:09:00far as musicians in the band, community outreach?
CH: I see it staying at least the same, if not even more. I've noticed the
average age is sort of going down, because there are some younger people that
are starting to come in and fill in the ranks, especially as people are starting
to move and pursue other opportunities. Just, you know, we've been around for
190 years, and here's hoping for another 190. (laughs) Or more.
ER: Do you have any message that you would want to give to young musicians,
young band members? You know, you're a music teacher. Anything that you would
want recorded for time?
CH: Just keep at it. It's a struggle, and it's frustrating, and it's tough, but
it gets better, and the more you play, the more fun you get to have with it, and
just keep at it, because it's worth it.
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ER: So I'd like to go back to something you mentioned earlier about pizza and
loud music Fridays. (laughter) Can you explain more about that?
CH: It just, you know, it was the end of the week, so neither of my parents felt
like cooking, so it was always pizza or some kind of take-out, and my dad would
just put on anything from the Beatles, Jethro Tull -- he was a huge Genesis fan,
which I listened to so much Genesis that now I'm like, oof, no thank you. I'm
done with Phil Collins. (laughs) But it was just kind of like a kick back and
relax type thing. And, you know, my dad -- we had CDs, and he would pull out the
leaf from the inside of the CD and we'd, you know, sit there and sing the lyrics
and it was just, you know, became a thing. (laughs)
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ER: Is there anything that we haven't spoken about that you would like to mention?
CH: I don't think so. I mean, the band's awesome. It's just a bunch of great
musicians playing great music, and it's both humbling and wonderful to be part
of such a great organization.
ER: Thank you so much for speaking with me today.
CH: You're welcome.
KATE RANIERI: I have one question for you. And you can kind of zoom in a little
bit. I'm directing here. If you were to think of something else that you do for
youth -- I mean, I know you all are doing a lot of things for bringing
awareness, involvement, but is there some other youth program that you'd like to
really see roll out? I mean, just in your fantasy world. (laughter)
CH: I don't know. I mean, I know the symphony does an instrument petting zoo,
00:12:00which is something that I actually did at the school I used to teach at. But,
you know, we're both organizations in the area, and we don't want to step on
each other's toes, but I think that's a great way for, like, kids just get to
go, and they get to meet musicians and play instruments, so, you know, something
like that is really great. I can't really think of anything off the top of my
head other than that.
KR: We've had some suggestions about a master class or master trombone class or,
you know, maybe some other outreach program. I'm just tapping everyone asking
this question just to see.
CH: One thing that I used to do, I used to work at a private school, and we had
an auction every year, so the teachers could donate what they called the teacher
treasure. And mine was always go to an Allentown Band concert and then go for
ice cream afterwards, so something like that, or one idea I had was having some
of my band kids maybe come to a rehearsal just to, like, see this is how adults
00:13:00rehearse versus, you know, what are similarities and differences between how we
rehearse and how adults rehearse.
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